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Vehicle types a contributing factor to increased injuries.

Last post 11-07-2006, 11:04 AM by Squid Killer. 3 replies.
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  •  10-30-2006, 8:30 PM 394

    Vehicle types a contributing factor to increased injuries.

    Has there been any real data collected and analyzed to see if the changes in automobile designs are a significant contributing factor to Cage VS Motorcycle crashes? Also has the shifts in design resulted in an increase in physical injuries to the motorcyclists?

     

    I mean in the 70's and early 80's most automobiles on the road were not very tall. With the majority of automobiles resembling sedans and station waggons where as the late 80 through 2006 the average automobile is rather tall. Now people drive mini-vans, SUV's and trucks which have an overall taller profile and place the driver's line of sight much higher in relation to the pavement.

     DONHUN


    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
  •  10-31-2006, 12:33 AM 395 in reply to 394

    Re: Vehicle types a contributing factor to increased injuries.

    In addition to the height , the broadened A-pillars and the harsher/harder crush zones have been duly noted.  The resultto the motorcyclist are injuries that a helmet will not rectify.  The studies on this are conclusive and extensive. These designs are not increasing our odds at life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
  •  10-31-2006, 8:49 AM 396 in reply to 394

    Re: Vehicle types a contributing factor to increased injuries.

    donhun:

    Has there been any real data collected and analyzed to see if the changes in automobile designs are a significant contributing factor to Cage VS Motorcycle crashes? Also has the shifts in design resulted in an increase in physical injuries to the motorcyclists?

    I consider any vehicle I can't see over, around, or through a hazard. And there certainly are a lot more of them on the road than there used to be. SUVs, pickups, and vans are all annoyances to be passed at the first opportunity, so I can better see the road ahead. And, given a choice between crashing into a Miata and a Land Crusher, I'll take the sports car every time. But statistically, there doesn't seem to be any increase in motorcyclist deaths due to the changing vehicle population.

    This chart shows the distribution of rider fatalities from 1996 to 2004 by other vehicle type. Light trucks--NHTSA's category for SUVs, pickups, vans, and minivans--have increased as percentage of involvement, but only as involvement of passenger cars has dropped. Tauruses and Accords are traded in for Explorers and Odyssesys, the vehicle population shifts, and, inevitably, more motorcycle crashes occur with the light-truck category.


    A superior rider uses superior judgment to avoid problems that would demand his superior skill.
  •  11-07-2006, 11:04 AM 420 in reply to 394

    Re: Vehicle types a contributing factor to increased injuries.

    I dont have any specific links to a study but I bet there are some factors making the average vehicle today more dangerous to motorcyclists.

    Larger blind spots making a driver work more to see whats around them.

    The driver feeling less threatened by smaller vehicles and being more bold in traffic

    The increasing complexity of driver controls. Car audio systems are more complex than the entire car from the 1980's. How many times have we found ourselves messing with some small control and drift out of our lane in a car.

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